I have never seen Thanos be too wary of an opponent to fight them before, really enlightening stuff IMO. Then, in most instances, they would be arguing against the very battle forum rules that say otherwise. Conversely, despite Gladiator's unbelievable strength, he really has no feat that indicate he can wreak as much destructive energy as say a super nova or an immense black hole....or energy strikes from Odin on a day when Odin one shots the Surfer and Drax, each who have their own incredible durability feats. Mmm. Generally, the character that is asserted to have super speed should have clearly definable feats, consistent with the character's power set, that clearly show that that character can think, move and react in a given frame of time. Is that really true is what i legitimately want to know. Team Hela (MCU) 1) Maybe, except it wasn't originally his. if Thanos was talking about Physical Prowess than it would make sense that Gladiator is the most dangerous out of that group (and it would be accurate). senkimintarafındasın, kimyenecek, kahramanlarınsavaşı. This means we have to determine what is being done for plot in a comic book (or what is simply poor, ill informed writing be well intended writers!). _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. two-pack for Avengers: Endgame teases a rematch between Thanos (Josh Brolin) and the Hulk (Mark Ruffalo). @avatar_of_green: Or he can stomp him, with his vastly superior (almost) literally everything. Thor had Stormbreaker with him, and he used it with all his might to challenge a fully armored Thanos. Yes he can, just because it makes you mad. (CW Flash) The Flash's speed thinking is stupid. In battles on the forum we include CIS, but not PIS, so Superman uses his speed but generally doesn’t kill unless otherwise stated. Just look at how these guys preformed against opponents in common. share. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite - Thanos Annihilation Costume Pełna cena wynosiła 16,49 zł 16,49 zł Teraz 14,84 zł 14,84 zł z Subskrypcja Game Pass Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite - Sigma This battle really comes down to two different philosophies. And before he knows anything he finds himself on earth at Thanos's ship followed by Thanos throwing energy attacks at him. Battle Arena= Planet Namek. He is well beyond well known bricks like Superman, Captain Atom, Thor and the Surfer in terms of his durability. That may well only be proof of the PIS described above. Otherwise he would have left out the word "much". Darkseid/Thanos vs Justice Avengers. No, they've never fought. He was never fearful of Annihilus in the story and approached him by walking up straight to him. Thanos would win, he killed the Hulk, every Avenger and X-Men member in Infinity war. I think there are too many examples from that story of Thanos being actually immune to energy attacks to ignore the statement he made, even if it doesn't make sense. Yeah I remember that, that was pretty brutal. Thor is NOTHING to Thanos. Nothing to suggest he is wary of Glads in any way. The hyperspace thing was a big deal in the eighties with Marvel, but eventually faded for the most part. I took the liberty of highlighting where Thanos says Glads is more dangerous than all the rest of the Annihilators, and then BFR's him 200 lightyears away instead of fighting him. When Thanos and Annihilus fought in the same story, Thanos was winning before he got teleported away. ? If this is the Shi'ar during Vulcan's rule, he will because Vulcan was a moron who overused the resources of his empire. I dont know could be anything. Hehe why would he not be. Also Thanos has espressed similiar feelings about Hulk in the past. I honestly think he just simply isn't quite on Thanos' tier far as strength, durability, combat prowess and experience, intelligence, technology, or energy projection. Besides, if you really want to read into the dialogue, he says Warlock and he are "direct consumers" of energy, "much like" Galactus and his heralds, but not completely like them. Super speed is one of the more difficult things to determine in a battle forums discussion I've noticed. But perhaps you would disagree, anyways I have to go atm will be back later to continue. He was also killed for a long time. Gladiator has no feats to suggest he can even put a dent into Thanos. He was killed during War of Kings by his own mistake that turned him into Magus. True, no mention of how many nano seconds is mentioned, but in light of the scans from FF above, I don't think many nano seconds passed. Thanos, all rounds. Thanos would be distracted by the other 22 that would Gladiator (Kallark) the chance to beat the crap out of him while the others are blasting him. Thanos would only win via BFR and intelligence. Interestingly, when witnessing Annihilus stomping Gladiator, he notes that the former beat Gladiator a bit faster than he would have. Thanos, all rounds. Thanos really has no weaknesses, and he knows too much. Gladiator heat beams were … Kallark, codenamed Gladiator is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by Marvel Comics. This is done for plot, to prolong the story and make it interesting (though it can also be said that it's a part of his character and not done solely because it benefits the story). Moreover Gladiator's weakness is much too easy to exploit, especially by Thanos. Thanos has been attacked by multiple foes before, Thanos has also found himself where multiple heroes have tried to pour their energies in him (Avengers: Celestial Question). @avatar_of_green LOL, what's with the random hostility dude? Thanos with Blade (Endgame) vs Gladiator Hulk (Ragnarok) Battle spoiler. Part of the problem for some is they aren't understanding the battle forum rules. Thanos. Relief checks plus $300 monthly for parents 'critical', Dems hope 1 stimulus bill credit becomes permanent, Oscar winner fuels talk of run for Texas governor, 3rd-degree murder charge reinstated against Chauvin, Biden's absence draws accountability questions, Once a star signing, Aldridge out with Spurs, NBA issues punishment for Meyers Leonard over slur, 5 questions remain after Harry and Meghan's interview, Fox News alum Stacey Dash disavows network, Trump, COVID-19 vaccine offerings expanded at major chain, House passes legislation to expand background checks. Hah! __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________, ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. Can Glads blitz Thanos all day without the Titan landing a single hit(as some would claim)? Or Batboy and Batgirl? Plus, a certain kind of radiation can kill Gladiator, and Thanos probably knows this. Look what happened when they each fought SS, Annihilus, Tyrant, Black Bolt, Hulk and Thor. It would destroy his image. Sure thing. The same thing can be seen if we take full history of both characters. @avatar_of_green: I actually want to know the real answer here, because i heard some people religiously claim that Thanos can not touch Gladiator and that he had to BFR him because he was afraid of his speed(that's why i made this a purely physical match no other abilities for either). The reason Thanos worked with Annihilus during Annihilation was because the latter had a military might to challenge 616 actuality. For those who don’t, PIS is “plot induced stupidity” and CIS is “character induced stupidity”. It’s a serendipitous feast for the mind, the eye, and the imagination, a literate celebration of unbridled creativity, coupled with a touch of rebellion and an … Gladiator vs Thanos (slugfest) Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Thanos has apparently become much more powerful now by becoming an "energy consumer" according to Starlin. For those that haven't seen it; compare the results of Gladiator vs Annihilus. Takes place at destroyed avengers hq. He's tanked attacks from Silver Surfer , Thor, Fire Lord , Genis, in separate instances without any sign of being hurt. Fantastic shape on 11x17 MARVEL COMIC BOARD. That's what Thanos was referring to in the scans you posted about Annihilus "almost" being like he and Warlock. Still have questions? 20. Why the difference? Superhero battle match: Gladiator Hulk versus Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet). Physically, I don't think he's stronger or faster than Gladiator, but he's significantly in every otherconceivablle category. Close. In Character. Feb 21, 2014 - Thanos, Gladiator & World Breaker Hulk Vs. Darkseid, Superman & Hunter/Prey Doomsday I'll shoot for next weekend. Pre Crisis Darkseid and Thanos Vs Silver Surfer Sentry Gladiator Classic Thor Black Bolt Classic Count Nefaria Hehe why not. Thanos' ability to react to the Surfer blitzing him, reacting to a blitzing Fallen One, etc....I'm not particularly sold on because Thanos has no stand alone feats that clearly indicate him as FTL. GLADIATOR vs. CAPTAIN MARVEL The Powerhouse of the Imperial Guard vs. Thanos cannot want to face the Hulk and still beat him at the same time. Captain Marvel Thanos Marvel Avengers Thanos Marvel Thanos Infinity Gauntlet Marvel Vs. Capcom Thanos Wolverine vs Thanos X-Men vs Thanos Comic Book Thanos Thanos Marvel Art Ghost Rider vs Thanos Iron Man and Thanos Thanos Marvel Movies Avengers Hulk vs Thanos Blue Marvel vs Thanos Broly vs Thanos Thanos Kills Marvel Thanos Marvel Vs. Nope. He wasnt trying to kill Warlock, he knew what would happen, and it would make sense that he is not attacking him. 고~! It’s a term that gets thrown around a lot but one I don’t think always applies. Gladiator, Mostly becasue he is way to fast for the equivalent of emo space hulk. Examples: I think there are too many examples from that story of Thanos being actually immune to energy attacks to ignore the statement he made, even if it doesn't make sense. Making a thread about what i said how mature of you as Thanos can not keep up with Gladiator so its a draw. Feb 21, 2014 - Thanos, Gladiator & World Breaker Hulk Vs. Darkseid, Superman & Hunter/Prey Doomsday Wow, fantastic page with the evil THANOS, MS MARVEL, CAPTAIN AMERICA, THOR, GLADIATOR, & MANIFOLD. Annihilus (Previously Galactus Level Being) + Hulk should be above Gladiator alone, yes... that isn't news. Watch this Thor: Ragnarok video, Thor Ragnarok Odin vs. Thanos, on Fanpop and browse other Thor: Ragnarok videos. :), in terms of answering the question...........yes he can........theoretically that's how it should happen but in the world of comics..........writers ignore that and even allow street levellers to tag speedsters etc. Win as many as you can, same price! Now since we do not know anything else about the energies perhaps they were send in form or nature that Thanos couldn't absorb. I honestly think he just simply isn't quite on Thanos' tier far as strength, durability, combat prowess and experience, intelligence, technology, or energy projection. Why is it Batman and Batgirl? Archived. Also, Thanos' combat speed is clearlyincredible despite no showings for travel speed, which we will never see because honestly do you believe he would ever run anywhere? save. In comics, Superman rarely uses his speed offensively. Gladiator is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics.He first appeared in X-Men #107 (October 1977) and was created by writer Chris Claremont and artist Dave Cockrum. All of that being said, I still think Infinity Revelation is non-canon, so I may be making a moot argument, but hey, I'm having fun. Situations can determine the winner just as much as the characters themselves so those should be taken into account before judging if a win “should” have happened or not. Superman is a prime case. Also, the statement "direct consumer" could be pivotal to that line of thinking. Perhaps this would be more helpful, friend. Gladiator is the only one who has a shot of stopping him in direct combat but it won't be easy. which we will never see because honestly do you believe he would ever run anywhere? This may be partially due to plot, but it also is due to the fact that the faster guy still needs to get in close when they blitz and then they would be caught in a grapple situation, something you do not want to do with most bricks like Thanos. It would be like Darth Vader running, not going to happen, it's part of the image. A newly developed and interchangeable head sculpt with authentic and detailed likeness of Hulk in Thor: Ragnarok equipped with separate rolling eyeball features; Movie-accurate facial expression featuring Hulk’s screaming and angry facial expressions with detailed wrinkles and skin texture The comic books also show him using energy manipulation abilities and a skin so impenetrable it has taken direct hits from Vulcan and Captain Marvel without Thanos breaking a sweat. As shown before when Thanos fought an elder, the Champion, Thanos's smarts would destroy Gladiator who would just punch until he kills himself. Lastly, Thanos is much smarter than Gladiator, as G-man is just a soldier/general, Thanos is a wizard/scientist who crafts all of his possesions from scratch. Actually, no mention of hyperspace. He could absorb some energy blast, he has done so consistently in the past. Thank you. Close fight. Have to agree entirely here. Plus, a certain kind of radiation can kill Gladiator, and Thanos probably knows this. Gladiator is underrated and extremely formidable, but I would hesitate in saying he could be considered as powerful as the Surfer, whom Thanos slaps around fairly easily. Thanos strangled supreme power hyperion to death with one hand: He also manhandled Hercules and Professor Hulk IIRC. The Annihilators are a fictional team appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. They also both fought the Champion of the Universe empowered by Power Stone. He clearly blasted Warlock with an offensive energy attack, who was completely unprepared or unaware, and Warlock absorbed it for sustenance like food. If Batman is a better detective than Sherlock Holmes, why doesn't it show? Thanos vs Hulk, Help Avengers~! How do we determine feats of actual super speed and PIS moments? Therefore, I'm calling this match, given the parameters of the OP, a draw. As far as I can remember, it's all him reacting to FTL characters....which has been done by a multitude of other characters with no FTL reaction feats of their own. Same author as their last fight too actually, Jim Starlin. He literally stomped him. Mallard was once the Praetor of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, the most faithful servant of the Shi'ar throne. Well we did see the new Annihilus with the power of Hulk mop the floor with Gladiator. Yes, in a given battle forum scenario, the opponents do have to, in most instances, come in close for a slug fest of some sort. Why not Batman and Batwoman? Not every fight where the more powerful/capable character loses is bad writing. The vicious battle will surely be a deadly combat! Gladiator Hulk and Thanos vs Red Gladiator Hulk and ThanosMarvel vs. Capcom: Infinitehttps://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/tid=CUSA06400_00 Apart from the recent power boost with Hulk's power Annihilus on his own has never really been a match for Thanos. Dude has been barred from dying by Lady Death. You wanna feel triggered by a simple thread do it somewhere else. Gladiator vs. Thanos Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. But this example seem more convoluted, lets try another one. Not really, IMO. These are terms commonly used on battle forums on other sites and most of us know what they mean. And I think this is the part that most on the Vine struggle with. Thanos. Regarding Gladiator, he has high feats for durability, but that really isn't the issue since, in a non PIS fight, Thanos cannot lay a glove on Gladiator: Dude is literally moving....engaged in combat....in the time stream under his own speed. Thanos pimp slaps Gladiator. Should go something like this: No, they've never fought. I despise spite threads, this was made just to spite another user, right? 1) #55 en février 1973.La même année, le personnage est développé dans la série Captain Marvel (vol. Following the conclusion of The Thanos Imperative, Gladiator has appeared as a member of the titular team in Annihilators #1-4 (Mar-Jun 2011) and Annihilators: Earthfall #1-4 (Sept-Dec 2011). That's not to say if someone more powerful is attacking he could continue absorbing it perpetually. It's the same as the one where Thanos said he doesn't want to face Hulk anytime soon. Hehe what has that got to do with Thanos. But Thanos isn't your typical brick. Only hand to hand, no TP, shields, abilities. 2) Agreed except Hulk stomped Thor in their first fight. Determining what is done for the plot and what is done because of the characters involved can be hard for some people. Get your answers by asking now. Gladiator has no feats to suggest he can even put a dent into Thanos. 1 mwarren100. ? @theking47: Your post makes a lot of sense. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. Thanos is a fictional supervillain appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Thanos can't lay a glove on Gladiator w/o PIS and Gladiator can't really hurt Thanos w/o PIS. THANOS pages are always in demand. For one, Kallark doesnt have enough feats and two Thanos has beaten the likes of Hulk, Thor etc with physical attacks. The above is a nice starting point and should alert Viner's to the fact that PIS does exist. @blackstaroblivion: Well, he said hyper-speed, I read hyper-space, close enough lol. Starlin is amazing but he tends to use hyperbole on characters he isn't known to write for like Hulk and Glads. And honestly this thread is not turning into spite since i see a couple of people making a case and saying that exact thing that Thanos can not touch Glads. He is the praetor leader of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard and the bodyguard of the rulers of the Shi'ar empire. The more confident Gladiator is the tougher he is to beat and the more powerful he becomes. Yet....Glads, despite his speed does not have the feats to indicate he can put Thanos down (see scans previously for Thanos) given Thanos' feats of durability. Lastly, Thanos is much smarter than Gladiator, as G-man is just a soldier/general, Thanos is a wizard/scientist who crafts all of his possesions from scratch. Somewhere well above herald, but lower than top tier skyfather. Gladiator from 616. I mean done before, as in Thanos pimpsmacked Gladiator in the actual comics done before. Gladiator is underrated and extremely formidable, but I would hesitate in saying he could be considered as powerful as the Surfer, whom Thanos slaps around fairly easily. @hellionvulcan: Why so triggered? Starlin has been and still is the best Warlock and Thanos writer ever. Scan with Hyperion is impressive but relatively inconclusive, considering nanoseconds could be literally 999 million nanoseconds before it becomes seconds. Additionally, Glads has an FTL feat from Quasar: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. Close fight. I mean, when a character has that level of speed....imagine the scene from X-Men: Days of Future Past, when Peter zips around the kitchen casually wreaking havoc with the feds that showed up to take out Magneto, Charles and Logan....those Feds had no clue what transpired....until it was all over with. He has been one shotted by Odin with nothing other than energy blast. He does not spare his enemies because of the plot, he spares them because it’s part of his character not to kill thanks to how he was raised. Which side wins? Many people on CV subscribe to the idea that "speed kills", so despite the fact that Gladiator is inferior in basically every aspect but speed to Thanos, he still would win according to some people. I've seen scans that purportedly indicate this....I'm not real sold on them though, because super speed is not part of Thanos' power set. Thanos with Blade (Endgame) vs Gladiator Hulk (Ragnarok) Battle spoiler. Warlock was completely surprised, it's not like Thanos has a "stun" setting on his cosmic blasts. Hasn't this been done before ? And i told Thanos defeated gladiator like ant Bt Superman match darkseid well darkseid is comparable or even better than Thanos Last edited: 11 mo 3 d ago. Thanos battled Odin and did better than Thor ever has. Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet) Created by Tstar. I just hate the no-limits nature of speed in battle forums and I wish I could unequivocally prove that it doesn't hold empirical value, but I can't... yet. Hehehe of course he does. Physical attack always seem to get more response out of him. Marvel is a cornucopia of fantasy, a wild idea, a swashbuckling attitude, an escape from the humdrum and prosaic. Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, Nova Prime, Ikon, Gladiator, Ronan and Quasar take on Thanos. It would be like Darth Vader running, not going to happen, it's part of the image. Maybe SS and the heralds are consumers of energy but not "direct consumers" like high-end cosmic characters like Thanos and Warlock. It’s Drax vs. Thanos, Gladiator Style, in ‘Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout!’ Check out a clip from the new episodes airing Sunday, April 1 from 8:00-9:00am ET/PT on Disney XD. Good posts. But Gladiator's powers are based on his self-confidence, and fighting someone so closely matched wouldn't work out well for him. Thanos also possesses the Deviant Gene and as a result, is extremely large, stronger, and faster than the rest of the Eternals. He has previously used his powers to transfer life forces to Reptile. This may be partially due to plot, but it also is due to the fact that the faster guy still needs to get in close when they blitz and then they would be caught in a grapple situation, something you do not want to do with most bricks like Thanos. I agree it doesn't make sense, but throughout that story we see Thanos completely immune to energy attacks. Friend I think you misunderstand the story. As speed thor also have insane feats his reactions are mtl+. The Gladiator Hulk Sixth Scale Collectible Figure specially features:. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. At the end Thanos "win" the fight against the Champion. For what it's worth, Thanos has willingly served under Annihilus before, though he openly disdained it. This would rule out statements from posters like: "character X is FTL because he tagged an FTL character". Please read. 9 Challenge: Vs Thanos (Final Fight) Thor fought Thanos for the third and final time alone, after he and his fellows had traveled back in time to try and prevent the snap from happening. Broly From DBZ movie 8. In essence, Thanos would be like Linda Park below who is clueless to the fact that Wally West is standing in front of her....because he is in the fourth dimension....the time stream: _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________, ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. 11 comments. EDIT: CV seems dead today, I wonder why? It's about his control correct hehe. The former was an attack to try and defeat him the latter was energy fed to him so he could get more powerful. Now multiply that by a million for characters moving through the time stream. I just wanted to put your hypothesis to the test, it seems it's not working though as most people just say Thanos pimp slaps Gladiator and no one really mentions speed. Seems like that whole instance in Infinity Revelation may be non-canon anyways, unless someone has proof that it is, which I have yet to see. "Much" implies that while they are much like them, they are not completely like them. Thanos BFR'd Gladiator away in their latest encounter. Edit: and yeah, thanos said that annihilus beat kallark faster than he would have, which to me implies that he didn't avoid a fight with gladiator because he was scared or wary, but because he didn't want to waste time beating him down. CIS is when a character loses because an aspect of the character (usually a lack of intelligence) gets in his own way. When Thanos fought his more powerful doppelganger he punched a hole into his chest with an amped punch. However, planet busting shots are only the beginning of Thanos' legendary durability feats: ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________. So, to answer the OP's question: yes, in a non PIS fight, Glads can pepper Thanos all day long with Thanos being capable of doing absolutely nothing in response outside of esoterics. Starlin was on crack when he wrote that line. Oh and out of a team of powerhouses, Thanos considered Gladiator the biggest threat to the point he decided it would be best to Teleport Gladiator away then try and fight him. PIS/”jobbing” is when a character loses for the sake of plot despite the fact that they should be able to win. The Hulk is incredibly durable and it is likely Thanos would have to exert a small amount of effort against the Hulk. I am asking an actual question because the person i argued says Thanos would never be able to touch Gladiator and this is strictly H2H. Pencils and inks by Mike Henderson. As thanos himself explains to Moondragon, the only reason he joined was because he was curious. Thanos has always been energy efficient and does not like engaging in fights that would cost him a certain amount of effort, for no reason. 1). Yes he confirmed Glads would be trouble, but that is not a statement that Glads would beat him. The character purported to have super speed should have their own "stand alone" reaction feats that clearly indicate they can operate at that level of speed. A tie-in Funko Pop! The super powerful Hulk appears to be monstrous wearing the Gladiator outfit and wielding brutal looking weapons on the alien planet of Sakaar.
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